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What is the first song we think of when we think of "Frozen?"

YEAH, that's what I thought! They even say "cold as ice" in the movie!

NOW!!!

Its time to Review Frozen. No not that 2010 movie frozen that scared the living Sh(beep) out of me and made me never want to go skiing down a mountain! (Good movie by the way)

I'm talking about this one:

THERE WE GO!!!

Princess Anna sets off to find her sister Queen Elsa, after she had unintentionally frozen her entire kingdom in the new Disney movie "Frozen." Good-day everyone I'm D-rock625, our story starts off with a familiar story, some would think it original but it's not, it would be that is if you don't count other movies that involve siblings, or sibling problems: Mozart's Sister, Sister, Warrior, The Godfather, that Tinkerbell Secret of the Wings and pretty much Every movie ever made.

Okay okay maybe I'm getting a little too much into original stuff, but unoriginality doesn't make this movie a bad movie, as long as they include new things. Frozen... eh, just doesn't (except for two new twists, one of the being good, the other being..... BAD). But its still a good movie ^^; hehe, oh man the flaws in this movie.

Though as good as it is, I felt sort of let down by it as well, I was expecting more but just didn't get it, I'll explain that later in this review.

Just to be clear: SPOILER ALERT.

What did I think of the movie? It's actually a good movie, that sort of restored my hope in Disney because honestly lets face it, Disney doesn't make good movies anymore, well live-action movies that is. I mean, look at "The Lone Ranger" that was a terrible insulting adaptation of an American Icon, it actually destroyed it. No one will remember The Lone Ranger as being this badass gunslinger who actually was a ranger but decided to make himself a symbol  and a really bad ass symbol with a bad ass sidekick, Tonto. The movie destroyed that. One of the worst western movies ever made.

Back to Frozen, yes it did somewhat restored my faith in Disney, I like the music even though two or three of them were completely forced. Lets take a look at  the animation first, it is beautiful. This is coming from someone who'd prefer 2D over 3D. The colors are amazing, the entire sequence where Elsa, played by Idina Menzel (AKA the wickedly talented, Adele Dazeem :rofl:) was building an ice castle with her powers was a wonderful sequence, and the music is good, and original. She is singing about her past time that she was forced to hide her powers because she could not control it, and by the time that everyone knows she has those powers she's purposely letting it go, hence the name of the song "Let it go." This song is obviously the best and most popular song in the bunch, we've news two sisters doing a duet on the song "Let it Go" about a week or two ago on the news. And boy did they suck:rofl:. Oh well they're little girls of course. And one just now who is the better singer than those sisters. Take it away girls. Her sister Anna played by Kristen Bell, is the less interesting character in this movie, though it centers around her more than with her sister. This doesn't mean I don't like her, it just means that maybe it's because she's not the one who's suffering. Yes she is suffering due to the fact that her sister shuts her out of her life, but her sister has the uncontrollable powers, and is widely frightening her, and she's doing all she can to protect the people she loves. I don't know about you but that made her more interesting as a character to me than all others, she has all the pressure putting down on her, why isn't she the main character? This is one of the problems I have with this movie. Elsa is more interesting. Plus... okay i'm gonna go ahead and say it, I THINK ELSA IS SEXY.

Yeah I've said it, I really think she's sexy. Granted she wasn't portrayed like that in the movie, she was in the trailer which is one of the reasons as to why I was sort of let down. But yeah, I really do think she's hot. I mean look at her:

OH MAN!

Probably pulled a Jonah Hill from "The Wolf of Wall Street", if yah get what I mean ;) (THE FUCKING BEST MOVIE OF 2013, well then there is Gravity and 12 years a slave) 

Speaking of WOWS, Gravity, and 12 Years A Slave

Here are some soundtracksL

From The Wolf of Wall Street

You already know

And you should know this.

Okay, back to Frozen. As far as story telling goes, it is pretty much rushed, and cliched as well. Disney has told stories in a musical fashion like this before, and they've done a better job, this movie seemed rushed especially at the beginning, and the end. The middle was less rushed. Okay I like the singing, I get the Idea that her sister Anna is missing her sister because they used to play a lot together and all, but the story was just way too rushed, a few minutes in and the parents already died. Don't get me wrong, the way their parents died is very realistic. Traveling by sea is no joke at all, its a very dangerous environment out there especially in the worlds two biggest oceans, In fact its the second most dangerous environment known to man, the first being space. That is believable, but I didn't have enough time to get to know her parents in order to actually feel sad. I was like "aww man that sucks" but that's it, I felt nothing, I didn't care for them. If any I felt more sympathy for the dad, because he had more dialogue, the mother I don't remember hearing her talk at all! If you guys do could you tell me, because I don't remember that.

So what am I really saying here? The Montage at the beginning of the movie, the "do you want to build a snowman?" montage... Don't get me wrong, i like Montages, and they are a good Idea as long as the story delivers, with this movie, it really doesn't. I'll give you a good example of an animated movie with a montage that makes it seem rushed, but the story delivered... "UP". We are going through a five minute nearly wordless montage, and after that, we actually got to know our main protagonist even more, however with "Frozen" what happens after the first montage? We go right into the next song "for the first time in forever." Which is not a bad song, but... We really don't know the character any better just by hearing her sing.

Now we fast forward (like the movie wasn't already doing that) to the part where already they're at the party. Again it seemed rushed here too, not as much as it was a few minutes ago. Elsa has come of age, and she's now the queen. I don't know about you guys but classical music please? This piece I have to present to you is the perfect coronation music:

 This would've gone perfectly with this scene. Anyways, then we cut to the party scene. That seemed sort of rushed AGAIN, but not as much as the first 11 minutes of the movie. We see the part where the two sisters are standing together and the crowd applauding them, and we also see that Anna is sort of uncomfortable standing with her. After a few seconds, they begin to talk to each other after a while of being separate. I sort of like that part if it hadn't gotten silly "you're beautifuller, gah well i mean not "fuller" you're-- more beautiful." That I think was sort of forced into the movie. And we got the part before, when she met the prince. "This is awkward, not your awkward, I mean we, I mean I'm so awkward, you're gorgeous! Wait what?" She did it that time, and the she did it with her sister and i was like "oh man shut up and say the right fucking thing already!" But that didn't ruin the movie.

However, I do wish we would've seen more conversations between them. There was a deleted scene, in the dressing room, you guys have probably seen it already, if not here it is:

Whilst the makers of the film do provide indispensable explanations as to why they had to cut it out, this would've been better if it was the first time they are together in a dressing room, that way we would've been able to spend some more time with them than what we actually have in the entire film. Now this scene is not written in the way that would make sense but what I would've done, is rewrite this scene to make it fit into the movie. For instance, make Elsa mess up her dress, and then go into the room where she conveniently runs into her sister, and she covers her little ice incident she made. At first make them uncomfortable, like make them talk slowly first, make Elsa be the first to say "hello" Like the original Coronation scene. And then make it silly like the scene went through.
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Anna: my hips are here, my hips are there, oops, pardon my behind young man, I didn't mean to knock you down.
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Elsa: It was just a gift.
Anna: From who?
Elsa: Oh, I don't know one of those big countries.

And I'm guessing "one of those big countries" is referring to the United States right Elsa?
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Yeah do something, with that.

Then we actually fast forward to a part when we see that Anna accidentally ends up with the prince. Then we get a rushed sequence already only to get to our next song, "love is an open door" okay, Don't know about you, but I think they just made the beginning part of the movie, only to get to the song, and judging by some "friends" I have who have actually been involved with it, they asked the writer, and they did seem like they just wanted to get to the songs. So, yeah it kind of was like that.
And this whole scene seems supports UNREALISTIC ROMANCE, they've just met and they're already getting married?!!? Hell even Elsa and Kristoff didn't get it! Then this movie seems to mock traditional Disney stuff, with "love at first sight."


Anyways, we move on to the part where things are about to get ugly. The two supposed "couples" want Elsa's blessing for their marriage, Elsa goes bitch mode (hence the ice queen. Get it?) and says "no," with a very good reason. Then Anna tries to talk with her, and then Elsa unintentionally reveals her powers. This part I think was played out pretty good. Though I don't think that's how it would happen, I mean if her priority is to not reveal her powers, and seeing as how her glove was accidently forced off by Anna, I'd think she'd keep the hand hidden and just yell at her, but oh well at least it helps advance the plot. Then she unknowingly unleashes her powers across all of Arandell. And now we have our movie! that's really thought out, but not really that well executed.

Okay so then we cut to the middle of the story. I've already said the "let it go" sequence was good. So lets leave it at that.

Now our main protagonist Elsa, I mean Anna is looking for her. Along the way she bumps into Kristoff, a character who sells ice for a living.
Kristoff: I sell ice for a living.

That's what I just said.
Kristoff is a good supporting character, but i don't know, he doesn't seem all that developed to me. I know he has a Elk named Sven, and he's not likable as much either. I mean that doesn't mean i'd rather not have them in the story, I would, but I'd rather we see more development. For example the romance between them, though a lot stronger than Anna and Hans, is pretty weak. And it wasn't the intention of this movie. This movie was about, or supposed to be about the struggling relationships between the sisters, however, we get another cliche adventure between a man and a woman. I can get the fact that they didn't like each other to begin with, and then at the end, they're couples, well that's a big cliche all around, the typical, "we hate each other, but we love each other in the end" cliche. But at least it's not as big as "love at first sight." But still a pretty big cliche. As they travel, they come across a magical snow man named Frosty, dah I mean Olaf ^^;.

Speaking of Frosty, check out Bing Crosby singing "Frosty The Snowman" :D


As soon as we got to Olaf, I was thinking, "great we're gonna have another one of those annoying dumbass supporting characters like EVERY ANIMATED MOVIE NOWADAYS HAVE!"

Admit it, you guys were ready to hate him.

But to my surprise he wasn't as annoying as I thought he would be. Lets face it, supporting characters like Olaf are getting annoying and old, not just for us young adults but also for kids as well. But Olaf wasn't that annoying. He was actually pretty funny when he needed to be, but they knew when to shut him up too. He also has a hilarious singing voice when he sings that summer song, it's like he's trying to sing like a tenor. What's actually weird about this character is that he likes summer, oh the irony of it. "i'll be doing whatever snow does in summer." Yeah... MELT! He still got a little annoying sometimes. "yeah, why? ... yeah why? ... yeah why? ..." Oh my god just get him to shut up already. But he's okay, just a stepping stone of the comical relief characters, I'm sure the next would be better.
But, lets face it, you were ALL ready to hate him.

Other than that, now we follow Anna, and her three unnecessary supporting characters. She comes acros the Elsa's magical castle... only to sing to each other and get kicked out. The duet that Elsa and Anna were doing was pretty good, they were in sync with each other, and they were in rhythm too. Though I do have another problem with this part.

Anna: :sing:Actually we're not:sing:
Elsa: :sing:What do you mean you're not?:sing:
Anna: :sing: I got the feeling you don't know.:sing:
Elsa: :sing: What do I not know?:sing:
Anna: :sing: Arandell's in deep deep deep deep snow.:sing:
Elsa: What?

Wait a minute... WHAT? how the F(beep) did she not know that?!!?
Look at the entire "let it go" sequence, she was walking on a mountain full of snow supposedly during summer. When she was singing, at some point she looked back towards her ENTIRE KINGDOM she should've seen that it was all covered in snow. Is she near sighted? How did she not know that her kingdom was in deep snow, when she clearly saw it?!!?

Anyways that still doesn't make it a bad movie, it's still good.

Then there's the twist of the story, the prince turns out to be the bad guy cliche. Well I don't think we've seen it with a prince, but we've definitely seen twists like these before. I kind of don't remember his motivation, maybe I didn't pay attention it or it's just plain stupid that I didn't even what to remember it. I never supported Anna and Hans anyways, that was just way too odd for this movie. By the way, Hans: LAMEST DISNEY VILLAIN EVER!!!

Seriously, he was boring as shit. And he was stupid. He tells Anna his secret plan, and... lets her live in hopes she would die, even though she would've purposely dropped something heavy to make loud noises and attracted the attention of nearby people, or the people downstairs to come up to her aid, and she would tell them everything.
"But Anna was weak" Then Olaf would've dropped something, and made lots of noises to attract people's attentions.

Then we fast forward to the part where Elsa is running through the frozen lake, and in doing so shes causing a blizzard that would freeze the whole town and kill everyone. Anna is running towards Kristoff, whilst he's running towards her looking for her but can't because of this blizzard, then the ice breaks Sven forces him off, and he supposedly sinks but then he crawls out of the water onboard a piece of ice, which is unrealistic because Elks don't have fingers, and the arm structure of a human, but it's an animated movie so yeah.... then Hans caught up with Elsa and told her that she supposedly killed her sister, then she emotionally drops to the ground stopping the blizzard, and everything clears up, just in time for Kristoff to see Anna and run to her, but then she convenietly sees that Hans was about to kill Elsa, and it was taking him FOR-F*CKIN-EVER TOO, He lifts the sword up above his head and it takes him so long that Anna was able to risks her life to save Elsa by jumping in front of Hans, then she turns to solid ice just in time for her to break the blade and send a shockwave to knock Hans to the ground. Oh, and good timing Ice, have you been waiting for the past I dont know TWENTY MINUTES more or less?!!? Then Elsa sees her sister is frozen and says "no" three or four times and hugs her while crying because she had done something she was trying not to do for the past few f(beep)king years, but then Anna is unfrozen because of love, which is also the answer to how Elsa can control her powers....:?
Yeah... its really cliched on so many levels. Yeah okay I'll admit I've said that word a lot but it is cliche.

And it's also kind of dumb. I mean, Love? Wow Disney, really shoving that message into people's faces there. I'll get back to this later. 

Oh, and there was also another problem with this movie.

Olaf turns on the fire.

Anna: Olaf you'll melt.

Olaf: Some people are worth melting for.

Anna smiles

Olaf: Er just maybe not right this second.

Apparently Olaf willing to melt for Anna and Anna willing to freeze for Olaf isn't an act of "true love" AT ALL!!!

Before we get to that part I'll just say that though this is a good movie, I was sort of let down by it. Hear me out, when we actually see the trailer, i was indicating that they were once great sisters, bound together by sisterhood, but when Elsa had the powers she supposedly turned bad. I think that would've been more interesting, if one of the characters had to die. It would've been really gutsy, I though Disney had the guts to do that, but not yet I guess. Disney is known for taking risks, now they're too scared?

Back to why this is really a let down, when i saw the trailer, I saw a scene where Elsa was standing on a hill, and it looks as though she was purposely releasing her powers to freeze her homeland, indicating that she had turned bad (or her powers made her turn bad). And then there was this other scene that the trailers showed, the part where Anna was like "That's no blizzard, that's my sister." also reinforcing the idea that Elsa had turned bad as well, and Anna has to stop her, both of which happen to be in this one scene. Check it out:

THIS is actually pretty intersting, and awesome... this looked like a way better movie than the one we've got, why wasn't this the final product? Why didn't we have to have someone who's powers is taking over her, than all that "wah wah, I can't control it" bulls(beep).

This was the one I was looking forward too, I was like "Finally Disney finally has the guts to do something like this." But instead when the actual movie came out, we get a somewhat weak character who doesn't know how to control her powers, not that I have anything against it, its just, the trailers advertised an almost different story than what the actual movie portrayed.

And back to my idea of one of the sisters having to die, it would've been interesting to see that if Anna had to kill her, that would've been heart breaking, which would've also proven that even though it's a Disney animated film, it doesn't need to limit itself to just being a kids movie. What is the problem with these companies? Serious animate films have been around in the past, like "Secret of NIMH," I think an underrated film, and a less serious "An American Tail" also VERY underrated but was was serious. NIMH featured talking animals which is equivalent to a kids movie, but it's barely a kids film. It's dark toned, serious, and it has deaths, and blood too. And it was a great film, what's wrong with a little seriousness?
I thought Disney had the guts to do it, I'm guessing it wasn't that time yet.

And some guy on youtube told me that the ending for this movie was the gutsy move. He/she was wrong on so many levels, and he/she also said that Elsa turning bad would've been a cliche. Maybe that's right we've seen that before, but the ending for this movie is one of the biggest cliches ever. Why? Because the main character supposedly dies, but because of love, she's revived, and then Elsa unfreezes the land, and everyone lives happily ever after because of love. Gee haven't seen that from Disney before (Snow White, sleeping beauty, beauty and the beast) So no... the ending was not a gutsy move at all, its the same move used by Disney over and over again. He/she probably didn't know what the term "having the guts" meant.

A really gutsy movie would've been if the main protagonist Anna had died, and the supposedly antagonist Elsa had lived or if the other way around, or even if they both had died, that's a gutsy move, the ending for Frozen wasn't at all.

The story was way too rushed, it's characters are underdeveloped, Elsa had too little screen time (29min:14sec total screen time), and Anna wasn't even that interesting as a character, Kristoff's was confusing, at first I thought he was taken by the trolls, I thought he had a dad or something. He was working with all these ice men at the beginning of the movie, and I thought he was working with his dad, and suddenly he was taken by the trolls but as we get further into the movie, it turned out they adopted him?!!? Wait a minute what!!! He didn't have a dad, he didn't have parents, your guess is as good as mine, the movie never explained it at all. And the trolls are basically pushovers as well, I hated them, it helps advance the comical relief, but I saw nothing funny in them. They're basicallly your typical parents that will embarrass the sh(beep) out of you. And that song was completely unnecessary, in fact, the whole thing was unnecessary, even though it was made clear at the beginning of the movie that they couldn't do jack sh(beep) to save Anna, and yet we're back there. Granted they wanted us to see how they treat Kristoff, but what do we get? pushovers. Oh, and they were singing that song, I don't remember it at all, and then they were suddenly putting Anna and Kristoff together to get married.

WHAT? Wait a minute... so the movie seems to be trying to say marrying Hans on the spur of the moment would have been bad, but letting the rock trolls surprise Anna and Kristoff with a ceremony would have been just fine?

And wait a minute there is one more thing:
Remember what I said about her parents, when I said I didn't care for them at all?
Well guess what? They were pretty stupid. Okay, get your hate mails ready because here we go... the parents were stupid. I mean I don't get what their motivations were.... They were scared yes... but they were stupid. The troll completely stated to Elsa that "fear will be your enemy" so what do the parents do? They keep her in constant state of fear by leaving her locked up in her room for the majority of her life? In what universe does this make sense? I mean the troll completely said that fear would be her enemy and yet she is so scared, and when she was getting older she was like:
Elsa: I'm scared, its getting stronger.
King of Arendalle (however you spell it): Being upset only makes it worse.

HEY I know the solution, LET HER OUT... seriously, let her out, let her go out and enjoy life, let her go and play, because this anger, and fear is the one making it stronger.
Seriously, the very first time I saw this, I WAS on the side of the parents, somewhat, but then when it got to that scene where she was scared because it was getting stronger, immediately I was like "okay, then they should let her enjoy life, because this is obviously not working." but NOOOOOOO.... they kept her in constant state of fear for the rest of her life..... yeah.... good parenting skills people.

Yeah, like I said, one of the least thought out Disney movies.

This movie had a lot of opportunities going for it to make it a great movie, but they didn't take advantage of it. Frozen is a good (or at least okay) movie, not a great one. Will it be considered a classic in years to come? In my opinion, maybe, or F*k it, it will.

Either way it was a good movie, and I'd say check it out, but I'm just barely saying it ;).

Time for comments, what did you guys think of this movie? Leave a comment below and I'll come back to you. :)


Oh and by the way, though Olaf is funny some times, he is not hilarious, if you think Olaf is hilarious, you should see those old Disney cartoons, those are hilarious. Or check out Captain Hook and Smee or however you spell his name against the crocodile in that peter pan movie. Cpt Hook is obviously the best character in that movie, and so is his first mate. And when you take the two funniest characters and put them together with the crocodile... dude, that is some of the best Disney slapstick you'll ever have. It kills me every time I see those scenes. No matter how many times I see them it just never gets old, I always burst into tears laughing. It's just... oh man it's way too much.

Like that part where Smee is about to catch Hook, but then the croc comes out of the water pushes the boat and Hook ends up in his mouth. Then Smee grabs and ore and is ready to hit the croc in the head "Give him Back!" But then hook burst out of his mouth screaming and then smee accidentally hits hook's head. Oh my god it's just way too much. I'm laughing even when typing this review, I just can't keep a straight face.

:iconcaptainhookplz:"ROW FOR THE SHIP, ROW FOR THE SHI--" Boing! :rofl:

Now Compare Olaf with those two, not even close, he is by no means as funny as Hook or Smee. Olaf is just a dumbass which is sort of funny sometimes, but it just gets old to a point where it sort of gets annoying. I did find his summer song funny though. He has a funny singing voice. Like a tenor with helium in him.

Now for a more negative point of view:

Love? Seriously? Love is the answer to all her problems? Well shit, that should've been easy. I mean yes elsa lived in fear for the majority of her life, but goddamn she loved her parents didn't she? I mean she loved her sister and it showed it at the beginning of the movie, how the F*ck did she not know that was the case? Okay she might have not had any idea that love was the answer but she still loved her sister and her parents, it should've have affect to the curse and given her a clue. Yeah this is one of the least thought out plots from Disney so far. But it's still a good movie, or at least it's just okay. Wow... Jeez of all the F(beep)king things they could F(beep)king come up with they came up with love. 

Oh and by the way, can someone tell me how Elsa got her powers?

King: uhh born, and getting stronger.

Born?..... that's it? Just born? (sighs) whatever.

Oh and for some of you disney fans out there, I'm a disney fan myself, but don't give me that "its a disney movie" bullsh(beep) because that is no excuse to how rushed this story is. Little kids won't mind it, but also think that half of the audience are also adults so a movie, Disney or not, should be ambitious. This movie is not.  Oh and "the best musical adventure since 'the lion king'"? Hardly. The story is too rushed, and full of flaws. So no, its not. At least I like this better than Tangled... Even though, I have to give Tangled the credit, it has better storytelling than "Frozen" does.


love. Ugh, we get it Disney we'll love our families, just PLEASE make another "Incredibles" already!!!!



PS: There are speculations of a possible sequel. Check it out: thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2…. But this is just a rumor, if it does happen, could they get a better screenwriter, because this movie's plot is just deplorable.



You know, I can compare this movie Frozen to Tinkerbell Secret of the Wings. In fact Tinkerbell: SOTW is what makes Frozen even less original. Frozen deals with sisters, well Tinkerbell SOTW does that before Frozen does. Frozen has a regular sister, and her sister has snow powers, Well Tinkerbell is by no means a regular human being, she's a pixie, but her sister also has snow powers, she's a winter fairy. BUT in Frozen, the ice powers gets out of control, and freezes the entire land. Again Tinkerbell SOTW is the same shit. Yeah Frozen is completely unoriginal. It's not bad, its just unoriginal.

Why am I comparing these two? REally? Well, actually Tinkerbell Secret of the Wings is actually the better sister movie than Frozen. Why, well Frozen is a movie that just tells us that these two are sisters and they love each other, but it doesn't actually make us feel that way, and that's the most important aspect of a movie. Tinkerbell MAKEs us feel that those two are sisters, the things they are doing, they share "lost things" or "found things" with each other, it shows that they're related, it makes us feel that way. Frozen, just uses dialogue and it doesn't actually make us feel that. 

Young Anna: :sing: we used to be best buddies, but now we're not:sing:

Elsa: :sing:There's so much fear:sing:

Yeah, thanks elsa for telling us and not actually making us feel it.


For sister movies between Tinkerbell and Frozen, Tinkerbell: SOTW is the better movie, it doesn't need music at all. Then there's the Romeo and Juliet part where they need to stay separated, and then they go to a log bridge where Tinkerbell and Periwinkle hug each other, and it was so emotional, the movie takes its time with that. ITS AWESOME.

Now there have been some people who are against my criticism of the story, saying "it's a movie meant for little girls." Well that's a bit stupid on your part, because by saying that, you're basically saying little girls are stupid and will never understand a story. Just because it's for little girls, that doesn't mean the movie has to be dim witted for them. And that's the Beauty of Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings, it doesn't treat it's young children as stupid kids who won't understand a story, it treats them almost the same as adults.

Even though I am COMPLETELY against Tinkerbell having a sister, Tinkerbell Secret of the Wings made me believe that they were sisters, and now I'm not that against it, I sort of am but hey it's pretty good, even though that movie is WAY OVER-THE-TOP GIRLY, I mean seriously, all the female characters in there are like "awww" "it's so cute" "she's so cute" and I'm thinking, "oh my god shut the F(beep) up already." Yeah I should've expected that, but even if I should've expected that, it is so girly even by girls standards.
But anyways, even though it is so over-the-top girly, and whimsical, at least it convinces the audience that Tinkerbell and Periwinkle were sisters, Frozen just tells us and doesn't do anything after that, I'm still convinced that they're sisters but not convinced enough.

It's so sad to think that a Direct to DVD movie is better than a theatrically released film. Tinkerbell Secret of the Wings was the better sister movie than Frozen.


HEY LOOK IT'S RAPUNZEL!!!! AND FLYNN!!!!!!


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Damn that was good!


So here's the breakdown:


"From the studio that finally learned how to make pixar movies"

Well, with this movie, I'd say they're still learning.


"Comes the feature length music video for... 'Let it Go'"

I know right, this movie was pretty much all about that song, which is annoying now, if you don't believe me, just listen to the interviews, they changed the story entirely only because they were crying to this song. (well, not crying per say, they were struck by the song.)


"confusing set of powers like, snow blasting, dress making, castle building, and creating life?"

Elsa: You're alive?

Olaf: I think so.

"they kind of gloss over that one."

I know right, just proves that this movie is full of unexplained flaws.


"Fall in love with her adorkable sister Anna"

Adorkable... HAHAHAHAHAHA, she is kind of a dork.


"Who spends three years of her life, shut inside a castle, even though she could leave at any time"

Maybe she was a lazy f(beep)k.


"And who can forget, the completely unnecessary, unexplained, troll rocks."

I KNOW RIGHT? the most unnecessary group of characters EVER. Well, then there's Olaf.


"That teaches girls everywhere, they don't need a prince to rescue them, because ALL men are disgusting loners, greedy murderers, or lying manipulative power-hungry sociopaths."

WOW, this movie is really makes us guys look bad. It gives power to the women, but make us look like s(beep)....:?.... And people say Hans is relatable, yeah anyone who says Hans is relatable I'm staying the f(beep) away from, because I'm not relatable to a power hungry psychopath.


:sing:for the first time in forever, its as good as "Lion King":sing:

OH GOD NO, honestly why do people keep saying that? It's nowhere near the level of "The Lion King". That movie had a level of seriousness, back when Disney used to have the guts to show something as heartbreaking as a boy loosing his father, now its not gutsy anymore. (and people actually think this movie is gutsy, they are wrong)


"Musical journey, that's all about the soundtrack"

I know right, well at least its not as bad as "Les Miserables" that was overwhelmingly ANNOYING!!!


"The romantic duet"

Yep, they were about to pork.


"The other romantic duet"

Lets face it, this movie unintentionally supported beastiality.


"The comic relief song"

Yeah well, kinda unnecessary character, that comes in like HALF WAY through the movie, actually more then that. With another unnecessary song. At least it was funny though.


"The one you skipped"

Holy s(beep) I don't even remember this song. Was this song at the beginning?


"the song you don't know the words to"

Yeah, you know what? F(beep) this song, the most unnecessary scene, characters, and song.


"and the YOLO song"

FINALLY, someone actually sees that this song is now annoying. It was good back then, but the internet, oh my god.



STARRING:


"Forgotten Sarah Marshall"

HAHA. the "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" reference, because Kristien Bell starred as Sarah Marshall in that movie.


"Kristoff Waltz"

HEY, the actor from "Django" and "Inglorious Bastards"... And that one animated movie you don't even remember, and all those German movies you never saw.


"Ugly Smurfs"

HAHA good one.


"Hans Gruber"

I KNEW you were gonna make a "DIE HARD" reference with that one, i knew it!!!


"Merchandising"

I would've said "Frosty the snowman"


"and, the wickedly talented Adel Dazeem"

HAHAHAHA,there's no way anyone's letting that go right? I feel bad for John Travolta now. :rofl:



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Hey, wait a minute, you forgot "Rapunzel, and Flynn Cameo"... Oh well.




Oh, and one more question: Why is Kristoff's name spelled like this (Kristoff) in the script when in reality the correct way to spell it is this (Christoph)?






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:iconfriendofthedoctor:
I like the movie. Now I agree with you that the story itself needs work, but I did like the characters.

I liked Elsa because, while she didn't have much screentime, she had more dimensions as a character. I'm so glad she wasn't the villain in this story and instead a misunderstood woman who feared what people thought of her abilities. Sort of a magic X-men thing. Though, I wonder what it would've been like if she was a villain. I know that some concept ideas made it that she was truly evil and others where she wasn't evil, but hated Anna for having freedom while she was actually forced to hide her abilities. Some endings involved Elsa getting redeemed at the end, but I don't know what her fate was for all the different versions. Other versions had it that Elsa had a love interest. Regardless, I do like the "official" version of Elsa. And I agree with you, that woman is absolutely gorgeous.

The idea of Hans being a villain isn't a bad one. Mr. Prince Charming is actually a despicable bastard who's only out for personal gain? That's pretty good and it's a massive  Take That to the Prince Charming cliche. Granted Shrek sort of beat Frozen to it but still...

The issue is that more could've been done with Hans. Wasted potential.
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:icondrock625:
I like the characters, however they needed more development. A lot more.

It would've been better had she have been the villain, or someone who's powers are starting to take control of her, and becoming possessive over her, that would've been interesting. I hear that there was an idea where her powers take over her mind and makes her do the things a villain would do, that would've been interesting, she would've been a villain, misunderstood, and a sister to the heroine, all three of which would've fit perfectly. However, this movie... Like you said, some versions involved her getting redeemed in the end. I'm not fond of the "official" version of her, mostly because she was advertised as something else in the trailers, instead we get a weak character who cannot control my powers, which is such bullsh*t to me if they wanna show women power.

Oh and by the way, this movie seems anti-masculine.

Hans was the lames, worst, and the most wasted disney villain ever, honestly and people actually think he's a good villain, no, an actual good villain would have a tremendous affect on the story, Seeing as how Elsa was like 99% of the problem, Hans had no room in it to cause anymore problems, he was ineffective, lame, and a dumbass. :D
And someone actually said he's relatable... :? Yeah, anyone who says this dumbass of a villain is relatable I'm staying the F(beep)k away from, because I'm in no way shape or form relatable to power hungry psychopath. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Like I said, this movie was one of the least thought out Disney movies, and its not even close to "The Lion King," why do people keep saying its as good as "The Lion King"? I have no idea. Its not there.
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:iconfriendofthedoctor:
I've only seen one Frozen trailer with Elsa and all it showed was her using her magic in the mountains. That's all. I think it was a teaser trailer. I couldn't get a good look at her face so it looked to me more like she was having fun rather than doing anything antagonistic.

Right now if they had used a different version, I say I would've preferred one of the redeemed versions of Elsa, but that's because I'm imagining the "official" version of Elsa in the role. And I realize that wouldn't fly. Obviously Elsa's personality would be way different than how she is in canon and therefore my opinion of her would be different too. I might like her as a villain, I may despise her, She could be a character I hate but acknowledge as a great villain, a character who I feel sorry for and/or happy if she gets redeemed in the end. There's way too many possibilities.

In the end, I'm happy with this Elsa. Ice powers aside, she goes through vulnerabilities, struggles, and trials just like other people do. If anything, people can see her as the relatable character. If they're willing to replace the whole magic powers bit with everyday challenges. Anna's a sweet character too but the "happy and slightly clumsy" personality is being used all the time. 

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad for you if this version of Elsa was the actual protagonist of the story instead of Anna? Granted it would also help if more stuff was done to the story to give Elsa a bit more of a challenge.

It's kinda funny though because the Snow Queen in the original story was not an actual villainess. She was more or less questionable neutral and gave the protagonists a way to help themselves rather than actually aid or hinder them.

I think the reason why somebody says Hans is relatable is because the actual creators said that Hans became the way he is because he wasn't loved a lot as a child. Having twelve older brothers DOES have a chance of doing that. But anyone who finds Hans relatable probably focuses on the child negligence part yet ignores the things Hans was willing to do to take over Arendelle.
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:icondrock625:
According to the original story board, that thing that looked like she was having fun WAS antagonistic. So that proves your theory wrong.

She would most definitely be a better villain than Hans is. Yeah good theories, however there are only one, and they would've made better movies than the one we've got, even though the one we've got is okay, it's by no means a great Diseny movie.

Yeah, she's okay. Anna is so adorkable... hehe courtesy of Honest Trailers. Yeah, however, she would've been better as a villain, or a host of her virus. You get what I'm saying. Like her curse is rabies, but not in the realistic scary way because rabies is fucking horrifying, I mean like her powers taking control of her mind, and mak... yeah whatever you saw me said this before I'm not saying it again, it would've been better if she was an antagonist.

You know what? We needed more Elsa time, Anna was clumsy and a dork, I don't see her at all as the hero type. Plus I read the story this movie is VERY LOOSELY based on, it is no where near the books level.
In fact the only thing that this movie has in relation to the book, is Elsa and the snow queen, that's it, the rest of "Frozen" has nothing to do with the book whatsoever.

I know, so making her a villain wouldn't be true to the book as well, she was neutral like you said.

And yet he becomes a power hungry psychopath, so nope, he's not relatable at all.  Child negligence part aside, he's not relatable, I don't suffer from child negligence, and neither do like, 90% of the worlds population, okay more like 70 or 75%.
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:iconfriendofthedoctor:
Theory? What theory? I said it looked to me like she wasn't doing anything antagonistic. And I did mention that I didn't get a good look at her face.

Now I won't deny that I'm curious of what would've happen if Elsa was the antagonist (and what I would've thought if she was.) Though I like the idea of the powers taking control over Elsa rather than her becoming a villain willingly. If she was the antagonist, I want her to still be sympathetic and likable. But again, this is because I watched the movie first and then learned about the original plans for Elsa.

So in the end I think she's fine the way she is. I get that not everybody thinks that, and I'll be honest; I'm not cool (no pun intended) about it. But I've learned the hard way that I won't be able to change everybody's mind. There's always going to be those out there who disagree. The least I can do is speak my own mind and I can be content with that.
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:icondrock625:
Let me tell you something... you said it looked like, sometimes it can be referred to as a theory, now however, I have sources that says it was antagonistic so there it proves you wrong still ^^;
I got a good look. On the HD version. the one I have on here was not that good at all.

Maybe it was because of that, however some people have seen the movie first and then looked at the original story plan, and believed that the original would've been better, however, that's still a relevant suggestion. It would've been better had her powers taken over her, and she was still the human behind this wall.

She needs more screen time she was the most interesting character of the movie, 29 Min and 14 seconds, wasn't enough for her at all, and this movie wasn't long enough for good story telling, and good character development. That is one of this movie's many flaws, unexplained trolls, powers (well it did say she was born with it, but that's it? Born? oh... whatever.) more unnecessary characters (cough Olaf cough) even though he was okay. No... she's not alright the way she is, she is lovable, but she needed more screen time. I know I've said it before, but its the truth.
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:iconfriendofthedoctor:
I don't care whether I was right or wrong, I was merely saying how it looked to me.

Elsa did pretty good on her own. She goes through hardships and comes out on top to get her happy ending. Do I believe she shouldn't have gotten more screen time? Of course not, she does deserve more screen time. It would be nice to see more of Elsa not having to deal with fear of her powers, which took up most of her screen time. But, somebody might actually like the lack of screen time so that they can interpret Elsa however they want for their fanfiction. Most writers like to make it that Elsa has come out of her show and become more free spirited and fun-loving, but still responsible and knowing there's a time and a place.

But as much as i would love to see more of Elsa, I'm skeptical about a sequel (especially since I don't know what material could possibly be used for one and let's face it, Disney hasn't done a lot of good sequels over the years. There were a few exceptions but not by much). On the other hand, I wouldn't say no to some short films that just showed little moments for the characters. But I'm really hoping, if any do come out, they will be focusing on most of the major characters and not just the side ones like Olaf and Sven (Sadly though, I wouldn't be surprised). Wonder if the broadway adaptation will show more focus for the characters than the movie did.

Yeah, it was weird that her powers could affect her clothing and create sentient life (though they at least made it that Elsa herself was surprised by the latter). Sure her powers are magic and all but I can see why people would think that clothes and living snowman would count as crossing the line. Well, not so much the living snowman bit for me because I've one too many stories where a person with elemental powers did something like that. But it was usually somebody with earth powers who creates golems.

As for the truth? Nah. Everything that's been said is just our personal opinions of the truth. You've got our opinion, I've got mine, and sometimes it's fine to just leave it at that.
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:icondrock625:
Whether you care or not, I don't care. :) At least you're still wrong.

Wait a minute what? So you don't believe she should've gotten more screen time, and yet you're saying she does deserve more screen-time... :?
Still the lack of character development does not make her very notable in this movie, even though she is a notable character, she needed more screen time because she was obviously the one with all the problems, it would've been more interesting if they concentrated more on her than her sister. Elsa was the one who is having trouble, "somebody might actually like the lack of screen-time" is not gonna cut it, not for most people out there.

Yeah, Disney really suck at sequels, those Direct-to-DVD ones are proof of that. Hell the sequel to Peter Pan got a theatrical release, and that one sucked. If there is, they need another writer, because this movie was sort of deplorable, so many flaws, underdeveloped characters. Yeah that's deplorable, and someone saying "its a Disney movie" isn't gonna cut it anymore, not when you've got kids movies like "Secret of NIMH" a movie with pretty complex story telling, and a kids TV show like "Avatar: The Last Airbender" a show that has great writing, story telling, set up, characters, yeah. Saying "its a kids movie" is not gonna cut it anymore. I'm not saying you are gonna say it, I'm just putting that out there.

AS Honest trailer said:
"A manic depressive princess with a confusing set of powers like, Snow blasting, dress making, castle building, and creating life?"
Elsa: You're alive?
Olaf: I think so
"They kinda gloss over that one."

I agree, they really made it up as they went along and not explain the sh(beep):rofl:
IDK if you've seen the Honest Trailer for Frozen, if you haven't check out my newest journal entry on the main page.

"As for the truth? Nah"
Yep I thought so. You wanna know what really proves it? the movie itself. The movie is alike a video used in court, where a prosecutor would try to prove that this guy did this, whereas the defendant's lawyer would say anything to make it look different, yes its' the same thing.
Either way, I knew you were gonna say that, good job.
:iconclapplz: Hey look! Citizen Kane applauding you. :D
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BrainyxBat Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The weird thing is, Frozen won the award for Best Animated Feature. Personally, I think Epic should have won. I haven't seen Frozen, but I know already from this review that Epic is the better one.
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:icondrock625:
Oh no, If I'm gonna review "Epic" I think it's gonna be more negative than this one, because I remember seeing the movie, and it was nothing but using celebrities to sell the movie instead of a good story. I think I am gonna review it. I'm gonna have to watch it again, because it is so forgettable, and seeing as how basically nobody remembers it, yeah I'm gonna have to watch it again. It's gonna be a pain.
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